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    I read about the hot water and mold but during my recent stay at crocs I never experienced either. The casino action I have witnessed during 1 stay and 3 trips where I didn't stay has been impressive...I am a casino person. Table play at times packed other times dead. Table minimums for all budgets maximums $500
    casino cannot get hurt but players can lose big what was impressive was all the green and black check action along with quite a few players playing maximum. Slots fun and enjoyable. I would not recommend video poker or certain reel games at crocs.I also saw many ticos and other central American/Mexican visators. IMHO crocs is here to stay and like any hotel room rates will always vary. Again IMHO crocs blows away the competition in jaco and is frequented by many staying at los suenos.

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    Thanks for the report. We need many more of them. I wish I could get a LOT more reports, especially from Jaco, Tamarindo, and pretty much anywhere in Guanacaste!

    $500 MAX on ALL Tables? I guess that the "Martingale" betters are out of luck!

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    I hope that you're right, and that Croc's is here to stay. But I hear several things that disturb me...

    1) $500 MAX on ALL Tables? NOT a Good Sign...

    2) SERIOUS Room Rate Increase. NOT a Good Sign...

    3) Three reports now of a decrease in Food Quality. No es Bueno...

    4) A high percentage of Latino visitors/customers? I hate racially profiling and stereotyping... but Croc's is starting to look a lot like and quack a lot like a duck.


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    On the other hand...

    1) Croc's is still playing Vegas Strip-style... even has a one-deck pitch Blackjack table... Papi Likee!

    2) If the visitors from Los Sueños are still flowing in, that is ALWAYS a good sign. Most Los Sueños players will play $100 on a hand of Blackjack and pay a girl at least $300 for an all-nighter. While you might not be able to compete with that (neither can I, actually)... we can definitely pick up their leftovers!

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    $500 max is a good deal for the house
    Players have to adjust there play
    Casino is run good
    Parsley and pepper good food but our last meal there they took both main courses off bill ...New chef
    Addicus never had A bad meal but only eat there once a trip
    Room rates if they can get high rates good for them if not they can always lower them
    Martingale and negative progression players need to start low
    I also noticed a decent European crowd and many cross visitors from cocal
    They definitely have some adjustments to make but I believe they we I'll stick around

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    Quote Originally Posted by trifectabox View Post
    $500 max is a good deal for the house
    It definitely weeds out the high-rollers and the the "trick" bettors. In Vegas itself, it sends a Very Clear Message... "This Casino is HURTING for Cash."

    That probably won't hurt you in Jacó, but it would KILL you in Vegas. The sudden major increase in room rates is sending the same message. Something tells me that Croc's is HURTING for Cash. I Hope that I'm Wrong about that.

    A $500 MAX? Might as well put in Penny Slots and a $2.99 Buffet.

    I won over $10K at Blackjack the last time I was at Croc's... Not even a single night in a regular "mountain-view" room comped. Geez... In Vegas, just for showing up and putting $1000 on the table (regardless of win or lose), that was a Free Suite from Sunday through Thursday night, $100 meal voucher, free airfare from San Diego, and $500 Match Play.

    The next morning, I ate my free "Included" breakfast (which everyone gets) and walked out of Croc's with my $10K+ in my pocket. When the manager asked me if I wanted to stay another night at a "reduced" rate ($20 off), I just said, "Nah." That kind of casino doesn't deserve the opportunity to win its money back. Croc's started out very well, but I don't like the way that it's headed...


    > Players have to adjust there play

    And I certainly did... as noted above...


    > Casino is run good

    I would agree that in some ways... yes... it is...


    > Room rates if they can get high rates good for them if not they can always lower them

    Croc's doesn't quite yet get what every other successful casino in the world understands... Rooms are "Loss Leaders"... or at the very least... "Bait"


    > Martingale and negative progression players need to start low

    That's a "Sucker Bet", anyway. But even the guys who play that system aren't dumb enough to play $500 MAX tables (not most of them, anyway). So... the casino loses their biggest "Money Makers."


    > I also noticed a decent European crowd and many cross visitors from Cocal... They definitely have some adjustments to make but I believe they we I'll stick around

    If Croc's wants to keep the Europeans... the guys who are spending over $1500 for a ticket for a 10+ Hour flight... Croc's is going to have to "Up the Ante" a bit, or none of those customers will be "repeat" or "loyal" customers.

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    I started out on my first visit to Croc's -- less than one month after it opened -- with a very positive impression. Sure... there were a few kinks in the system, but that's to be expected when a brand-new joint has been open for only one month. I gave Croc's the benefit of the doubt back then, and have visited again on several occasions. And yes... Croc's has improved with each and every visit.

    However, from that very first visit to the present day, on each and every visit... nothing has ever been "quite right" about Croc's. Just a few examples...


    1) Visit #1... Croc's has been open for less than one month. I get out of the elevator on my floor (the fourth floor), and it is pitch black. The power is completely out, and I can't see my hand in front of my face. I manage to stumble back into the elevator and find the "ground floor" button. At reception, a very nice young man grabs a flashlight and escorts me to my room, explaining that the backup batteries and the generator have both failed. It's a brand-new place, so I can accept that as a valid explanation. But... after the guy leaves my room... I realize... No apology, of any kind? Nothing? I mention the experience at the reception desk the next morning. Same thing... Explanation about the batteries and the generator both failing... and... no apology of any kind.


    2) Visit #2... I am traveling with my secretary, and I hand her my Passport, so that she can check us into our room... then I head off to the casino to fire up a game of single-deck blackjack. About 10 minutes later, my secretary walks up and tells me, "They need to see you at reception." I ask her, "Why?" She says, "They say that they need to see you in person." I tell her, "The room is pre-paid on a business account... Your Name is ON the business' credit card... You Go Tell Them to check us in, and that I'm busy playing blackjack." She answers, "Yes, Sir" and walks away. She walks back up to me about 5 minutes later, with her eyes pointed straight at the ground, and says, "I'm sorry. They won't check us in unless you come to the reception desk, personally."

    Well... There is One Thing in This World that you Definitely Don't Do To ME...

    You don't FUCK with me when I have been drinking and LOSING at blackjack!

    I told my secretary, "This is not your fault. You go over to that bar over there and order yourself a cocktail, and relax. I will take care of this situation myself, and I will come and get you when the situation is resolved."

    She walked away, towards the bar.

    I looked at the dealer, whose eyes were as huge and as round as the wheels on a Ferrari, after hearing that conversation. I told her, "Pit Boss! NOW! Not 3 minutes from now... NOW!" She just nodded and scurried away. It was fairly early in the day, so there wasn't a Pit Boss immediately nearby, but she showed up with one in about 45 seconds.

    The Pit Boss asked me, "Is there a problem, Sir?" I answered, "In fact... Yes! There is a Big, Huge Problem! I just arrived, with my secretary, who went to reception to check us in while I came over here and laid my money on YOUR blackjack table and started to gamble and have fun. Well... I'm not having fun right now, I can tell you that. Your reception won't let my secretary check us in, unless, apparently, I leave this table and go to reception, for some unknown reason. The room is charged to a business credit card, which was issued in my secretary's name, and we have all of the proper documentation to check into this hotel. So... before this visit to your hotel becomes even LESS fun, I'd like for you to go over to reception and get us checked in, while I continue to sit here and play blackjack."

    The Pit Boss said, "I'll take care of that right now," and walked away. Well... about 5 minutes later, the Pit Boss came walking back to the table, with a reception desk person "in tow." I could see that the reception desk person had a few pieces of paper in his hands. I had that feeling... He wants me to sign some stuff...

    Man... I almost LOST IT! But... I manged to "Maintain"...

    I looked away from the reception person, and back at the Pit Boss, and I said to the Pit Boss... "I have this feeling... that this person wants me to sign at least one of those papers that he's holding... a task that my secretary was supposed to take care of while I am playing blackjack. You know... that's one of the reasons that I Have a secretary... so that she can handle the details at hotel reception, while I play blackjack. Now... You can kick me out of your hotel/casino if you want to... but I swear to you... right now... if you ask me to sign even ONE of those pieces of paper, every person in this hotel is going to learn some very New and "Colorful" English Vocabulary. So... Are we "Me Swearing like a Sailor for 5 minutes and you kicking me out", or are we "Me continuing to play $50 per hand on blackjack, and somebody giving me two room keys?"


    3) Taxi Stand? A place like Croc's... especially considering its location... is still "hit or miss" on Taxi Service? The situation has gotten a little better, but there are still some huge gaps.

    4) And a shuttle should definitely be in place, considering the location. It's not even the cost, as much as it is the Waiting. If you wanna be "Vegas", you need a ride always waiting for your customers.

    5) Emails and "Special Offers" are very rare, and often make no sense. Several of the "Special Offers" that I have received were priced higher than regular rates, or had no price at all. Most of the emails that I get from Croc's just confuse me, more than anything else.


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    But... Croc's is not all bad... although my initial optimism about the place has given way to a significant amount of skepticism...


    1) The pool, pool bar, and crocodile habitat area (it's sort of all "one" area) is very nice.

    2) The bell/valet staff is second only to the staff at Marriott Los Sueños, in the Jacó/Herradura area. Croc's has a Kick-Ass bell/valet staff.

    3) The location is awesome... IF you're willing to spend almost all of your time at Croc's. This is a sort of 50/50 situation, as Croc's is a bit more than a hotel... but it's not quite a full-featured resort, either.

    4) For the mongers among us... there is some "fishing" available at Croc's. It's Sushi-grade fish, and it is usually priced accordingly. If you're a patient guy, you can find some real "winners" at Croc's.

    5) Croc's is entirely oriented around the U.S. Dollar. There is no currency exchange issue at Croc's.

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    I got 531 to the dollar at the casino max 200 dollars per guest per day. Im a dice shooter but didnt partake layout looked like a vegas table at the quick glance i took. Be careful ive seen some cruise ship and island layouts screw you on some payouts..

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    Im coming back to crocs tomorrow for 2 more nights. I am a fairly easy guy to please its just for 300 a night i really dont want to deal with too many glitches. At 75 night and the power goes out for a couple of hours i wont even blink. At crocs one night power cycled off and on with generators kicking in and knocking my movie on and off with it..at 300 a night that bugs me

    ..also i think i could go back more than once to the cage each day just limited to 200..felt the rate was very fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaco Hank View Post
    I got 531 to the dollar at the casino max 200 dollars per guest per day. Im a dice shooter but didnt partake layout looked like a vegas table at the quick glance i took. Be careful ive seen some cruise ship and island layouts screw you on some payouts..

    I've never seen the need to exchange cash at Croc's, but I have been living here for quite a while, so I also have plenty of Colones. Nobody at Croc's has ever even wanted my Colones. Every time that I try to pay in Cash, with Colones, the person always asks me, "Do you have Dollars, or a credit card?" To do anything outside of Croc's, you have to walk, ride, or drive right by the BCR ATM, anyway, which is the best rate that you're going to get in Costa Rica... but I hear that they are still keeping their withdrawal limits very low for many cards.

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    I don't think people are going to crocs for the casino. Low max tables usually a winner for the house its also a destination that you shouldn't expect comps win or lose.(no competition) they do have a club card that allows you to purchase room food etc much like what vegas has now. The craps table is a little different than vegas but all pays are the same they just use to instead of for. Example vegas hard eight pays 10 for 1 crocs 9-1 same pays stated differently.They don't attract a true gambler so the hit and run is more common which can swing the hold. I believe that we wont know much about success or failure till there open 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trifectabox View Post
    I don't think people are going to crocs for the casino.

    And that's a shame, because I think that people would. High rollers don't like a one-horse town, but Croc's has a lot of offer. There are at least a few rich guys (a couple of them are clients of my travel business) who would LOVE to have even just ONE REAL Casino in Costa Rica. Croc's and Sheraton are about the closest, but neither one can compete with 95% of Vegas. Poker is the BIG deal in Costa Rica, of course, but every casino in the country is missing out on the other games... Big Time.

    It happens all the time... Some rich dude's wife says, "For vacation this year, I wanna go to Costa Rica!"...

    To which the guy responds... "Well, that's lovely. What am I supposed to do for two weeks? My hobbies/interests are gambling, hunting, theatre, and classical music. I get seasick, and you wanna go to the beach... and you'll get upset if I leave you to go into San José to pick up a good show or concert. There's no place with more than 2 or 3 golf courses within range in the whole country, and what if it rains? Looks like you'll be enjoying the only 2 weeks per year that I get away from the office, but I won't be enjoying it."


    This is a whole major-money demographic that the country is missing. The thing that I don't get about Croc's is they have made an Extremely Big Deal out of their "Las Vegas-style" casino, and have completely failed to capitalize on it. They didn't even TRY.


    Every thing that you're saying is absolutely correct, of course... although I don't think it's going to take 3 whole years to find out whether Croc's is a Winner or a Loser.

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