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    More about the Marriott Los Sueños..

    I love the Marriott Los Sueños (MLS). Actually, I love the pool. I posted about MLS many times on this board. I stayed at MLS four times this year. I just never get tired of that pool. It's a high-quality resort, located within a much larger high-quality "compound"-- Los Sueños. This whole huge landmass was planned right down to the square inch before the first foundation was poured. So far, the front gate at Los Sueños hasn't been access-controlled on a continuous basis, although it is there for a very good reason. I'll put it this way... If you visit Los Sueños often enough, you'll see the U.S. Secret Service and the DS skulking around. Did you know that Marriott's international headquarters is in Washington, D.C.? If you've ever been inside of Los Sueños, somebody knew that YOU were there, even if you weren't a registered guest and drove inside just to look around. The security isn't super-tight most of the time, but the entire property is "Aware."

    Second Point... There is a lot of money in Los Sueños. There are some expensive villas in there, and some expensive boats in the Marina. The one-time largest sloop in the world, Georgia, was docked at Los Sueños for at least one month. http://www.superyachts.com/sail-yacht-2767/georgia.htm Whoever leased that yacht spent more money in one month than I've made in my entire lifetime.

    Back at MLS. It's not as high-dollar as the Yachts and the Villas, but it's still not the "poor" crowd. The rack rate on the cheapest rooms is over $300 per night. Everything else in the place (food, drink) is expensive too. I wait for the "last-minute" specials, when I can afford to scoot down to MLS for a couple of nights. My point is... Throwing a fit because security won't let your two cheaply-dressed hookers in because you're a paying customer is like a flea giving a Rottweiler the finger because it's a "resident" on the dog's back. Marriott doesn't give a flying fuck about a "paying customer" with 2 hookers, when the wrong hotel guest seeing those two hookers could instantly cost Marriott millions of dollars in business.

    If 2 or 3 more mongers do the same thing, that front gate at Los Sueños will close... permanently. It will be open for registered guests of the hotel, but it will Not be open to 20-something latinas, unless their name is on the hotel reservation.

    And here's another thing... If such a report from a D.C. elite ever hits the society page back in Washington... "I couldn't believe that the Marriott had... trashy... looking... escorts... on the property" -- the President/CEO of Marriott will fly to Costa Rica, walk into MLS, walk into the Hotel Manager's office, and say... "You, and everyone else that works here, are fired. You have 15 minutes to collect your shit and Get Out."
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    My latest info on Croc's...

    Croc's is positively Soaring! Croc's is doing everything right, and it shows. Room rates for this year's High Season are over 20% higher than last year's High Season, and Croc's is still going strong. Some of the working girls have moved to Croc's from Cocal, although Croc's doesn't allow the girls to operate as openly as Cocal does. Your best bet for meeting the girls is after about 8 p.m., at the bar adjacent to the Casino or the Night Club.

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    Just stayed at crocs(wifed up) from 12-4-12-7 enjoyed it very much.There were some cocal girls in casino with dates and on the hunt(discreetly). Stopped by the cocal on Friday night ..it was packed but im glad I was at crocs my new hotel of choice. If your not budget conscious I recommend crocs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trifectabox View Post
    Just stayed at crocs(wifed up) from 12-4-12-7 enjoyed it very much.There were some cocal girls in casino with dates and on the hunt(discreetly). Stopped by the cocal on Friday night ..it was packed but im glad I was at crocs my new hotel of choice. If your not budget conscious I recommend crocs.

    Looking forward to my first stay at Croc's in early January, high season rates are kind of drag though. My normal south beach hangout dropped me last minute like a lead balloon. The kicked out all their individual reservations after January 1 in favor of going exclusively to groups. They had been trending this way for awhile but I had been able to reserve between groups until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaco Hank View Post
    Looking forward to my first stay at Croc's in early January, high season rates are kind of drag though.
    I'm not quite sure what's up with Croc's right now, regarding their huge increase in 2016 rates. I've got some "feelers" out there. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

    I think it's important for everyone to remember that Croc's is trying to sell some high-dollar Condos, in addition to being a Jacó Beach hotel/casino. I hope that Croc's is not trying to put the cart before the horse in this regard. Croc's needs to remember that it is also pioneering a previously unopened section of Jacó Beach. And where do the working girls fit into this equation? Time will tell.

    EDIT: I'm not trying to second-guess Croc's in this regard. I am not a professional hotelier. I can only guess and hope that Croc's knows what it is doing. If this all works out... Croc's could certainly end up being the huge winner in this entire scenario... Huge new hotel, Las Vegas style casino, working girls hanging out at their bars, nice Las Vegas style club on the second floor...

    This could be a Major Win for Croc's... but that requires that Croc's has their shit together and plays the game correctly.
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    I have probably stated all of this before...

    The best thing that Croc's has going for it is its decidedly Un-Tico approach to its business model.

    Now... Don't misunderstand me. I am not saying that I don't like Ticos or that I hate everything about the way that Ticos do business. If that were the case... then why would I love Costa Rica so much, and still be living here?

    What I AM saying is that I understand the advantages of doing business the way that Croc's does business. Croc's has brought something unique to Jacó... something that people will notice... something that many people will appreciate.


    One thing that I definitely noticed is that when Croc's opened... it didn't take long for many other venues in Costa Rica to change the way that they do business.

    All of a sudden... Other venues are offering free drinks to gamblers. All of a sudden... Other venues are offering all kinds of perks and specials. All of a sudden, games and rules that were never previously available... are available.

    I went to Croc's within days of its initial opening. Of course, there were some rough points. That's natural. I have been back to Croc's 5 times since then. Every time, it gets better. It learns... It adapts... It improves... Very Quickly.

    Guys... That is Absolutely Not typical Tico behavior. Croc's has brought a non-Tico style to Jacó, with the goal of kicking the living shit out of every potential competitor in Jacó... and Croc's is doing a very good job of it.

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    my 3 nights in a mountain view room that also had a ocean view cost $404. I recently booked for may same room first quote for 5 nights $1271,went to another site booked it for $706 including tax. just check around deals can be found especially in rainy season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trifectabox View Post
    my 3 nights in a mountain view room that also had a ocean view cost $404. I recently booked for may same room first quote for 5 nights $1271,went to another site booked it for $706 including tax. just check around deals can be found especially in rainy season.

    Always good advice. Always check with several sites, even if the hotel's own site guarantees the lowest rate. Sometimes, even then, the hotel's own site does Not have the lowest rate. That's an old trick that keeps many people from checking other sites.

    Trifectabox makes a couple of good points in his post:

    1) Don't count on the hotel itself (whether via its website, phone, or email) to provide the best price. On the other hand... be aware that that IS usually the best available price.

    2) Low season in Costa Rica is full of deals. Check around... Ask around...

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    Just left after 3 days at crocs. Be back for a couple more after doing some eco stuff and my first jaunt to the Caribbean side. Have to say I wasnt blown away. Very nice place I was surpised that the tico gringo ratio was almost equal. Casino seemed deserted most of the time. Food was good not great. I know they have tremendous overhead but i was left with a less than impressed taste considering my all in room price was 300 plus. Hot water takes forever and I overheard a tico and his model wife/novia complain about mold. Tonight I am in a room near poas that has cost me one sixth the price..no ocean view but the food was almost as good and the shower was hot instantaneous. Im going back to crocs for another bite of the apple soon. Service at crocs was superb. Ran into my favorite bartender who last year worked at hotel 9. She is now at crocs.. speaking of hotel 9 ....looks like the jaco vip people have exclusive booking rights from what I've been told.. most of the staff just got fired this week.

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    As for Croc's... As I stated many months ago... We all knew that This High Season (2016) would be the telling point. Can Croc's maintain their "High Roller" formula? Too early to tell. I'll get back to you in April.

    Personally, I was hoping it would work out. I LOVE the Las Vegas-style Casino formula and the atmosphere. I was wondering how the Massive Boost in room rates was going to work out for them. Maybe not so well.

    Every time that I have visited Croc's, Ticos outnumbered Gringos. That's Never a good sign for high prices. The real problem for Croc's is that it's way off in the middle of nowhere. For a Gringo... "Why be way over here, when I can be Right Here and walk to a bajillion different places within 5 minutes?" One-Stop-Shopping is NOT a good play in Jaco, although I thought (and still think) that it might work for Croc's. Free shuttle to and from town, Croc's? It could save ya!


    Hotel 9? Who knows where that place is going? I'm staying away... FAR away... until it stabilizes.

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